Berry Punch lay in her bed when she was awoken by a gentle nudging tickling her ribs. Cracking her eyes open she saw her daughter Ruby Pinch. Giving her a gentle smile, “What’s up honey? Did you wanna snuggle?”

Ruby blushed heavily and struggled into the bed, “Hey! Hey! Hey momma! Di-didja know … didja ya know that you are super sexy?”

“What?! Honey, Momma’s little love, are you drunk?” Berry asked.

“I luff it when ju call me honey, or your lil’ love, call me it again,” Ruby said leaning close to her mother’s muzzle.

Berry Punch backpedaled until her back was pressed against the headboard. Ruby tried seductively slinking up to her, but ended up drunkenly waddling instead to her mother’s general direction. Berry asked again, “Ho - Pinchy, are you drunk?”

“Nah! Imma not drunk, I mad shure ta drank from the tap shalf,” Ruby drunkenly slurred.

Berry combed her memories and gave herself a mighty facehoof, “Oh! My! Celestia! Holy buck I can’t forgot to label it. Honey, that was mommy’s newest experimental, special punch. Sorry baby but you’re drunk.”

“But I don’t care, I want ya ta be mah sexy, sexy, fillyfriend, mommy, lover pony!” Ruby said, “Yar sa kind, and gentle, you make evar-ee poneh happy with your drinks, and enter … en. entra… happy fun timez. I don’t care if I’m drunk! I need you! I need you so bad, please be my fillyfriend?” Ruby said.

Berry Punch grabbed her and held her against her barrel, “Poor baby, your first drunken confession. I had quite a few of those, but I’ll tell you what. Tomorrow if you remember tonight, we’ll talk. But if you forget, then we can both forget this ever happened. Alright Pinchy?”

Ruby nodded into her barrel, “Do I have to go away mommy?”

“No baby, you can stay with mommy tonight,” Berry whispered tenderly giving her a compassionate nuzzle.

Ruby mumbled her thanks before passing out, snoring softly as her body molded itself to her mother’s subtle contours. Berry looked at Ruby, rubbing her mane as she watched over her. Moments like this, minus the being drunk or the confession of love, was a common occurrence. Even though Berry had given Ruby her own room since she was two, but Ruby almost always found her way to her mother’s bed.

It was something she actually looked forward to after a long, hectic days work. Coming to see her daughter on her bed, and wrapping her forehooves around her like a nice comfy beanie baby. Or on her days off when she’d be feeling restless and her daughter would climb into the bed and cuddle with her and Berry, much like right now would pet her mane, or hold her close feeling the warmth radiating from her body.

For Berry it wasn’t a sexual thing, her daughter needed physical affection and closeness, and Berry needed the same thing. But looking at her daughter snoring in her arms, she couldn’t help but feel as if all those little somethings she did to show her daughter that she loved her was somehow responsible for Ruby having the hots for her. Leaning over she gave Ruby a light kiss on the forehead before whispering, “Sorry if I caused this my little love. You are the most important pony in my life, and I don’t want to lose you.”

Berry looked at her daughter snoring adorably, walked over to the thick, sun blocking curtains of her room, that usually acted as her best friend against the raising sun when she was feeling hungover. She threw open the curtains and saw Ruby shift and grumble before going back to sleep. Shaking her head she walked over to her small collection of smelling salts she usually used when feeling tired from after a night of hard drinking, or a quick pick me up. Thank Celestia for Carrot Top, I’d never be half as functional sober if it wasn’t for her potions and herbal remedies. I heard Zecora's is even better, but like Tartarus I’m going into the Everfree Forest. I’d rather do a deal with Tirek, than do that.

As the vial passed under Rubies nose her eyes popped open and she looked at Berry Punch, “Whoever invented morning, needs to be put in timeout,” Ruby Pinch pouted.

Berry Punch laughed, “I know Ruby, when you’re ready meet me downstairs okay? I’ll make your favorite breakfast.”

As Berry walked down the smile fell from her face as she hoped with every fiber of her being that her daughter forgot last night, or at least pretended she did. She was dreading the talk they’d have otherwise. She admitted as far as drunken confessions, her daughters wasn’t the worst one she ever heard. Although most of those came from her to some random pony for her need of companionship and to have a friendly body to make love to on lonely nights. Sure she and Cheerilee helped each other out from time to time, but it was something Cheerilee needed less and less from her older sister as time went by.

It took her a while to make Ruby’s special breakfast salad with caramel and whipped cream topping. Her salad was a mix of maraschino cherries, caramelized apples, honey glazed grapes, and a sprinkling of muffin chunks. Cooled in the refrigerator until cool enough that they didn’t melt the dressing added. Berry didn’t know when she made it first, but Ruby loved it and for the longest time hounded her to make it more. Hopefully it would take the sting away if she had to have to talk.

Berry had set the table and sat down when Ruby trudged down the stairs. Stumbling about like a zompony. Berry threw up a brave smile and said with as much as she could muster, “Hey Ruby, I made your favorite.”

Ruby nodded and sat at the table, but rather than tear into it with wild abandon she just pushed the food around. Berry was feeling worried when Ruby Pinch looked at her with tears filling her eyes, “I’m sorry that I did a bad thing last night, please don’t be mad at me!”

“Bwha?! What makes you think I’m mad at you?” Berry asked flabbergasted.

“Because you only call me Ruby, or Ruby Pinch when I’m in trouble or I do something that makes you mad. And last night I accidentally drank the punch on the top shelf not knowing it wasn’t for me and my friends. Then I started telling you how I felt. Then all this morning you only called me Ruby. So I must be a bad pony if you’re calling me Ruby!” Ruby bawled dejectedly.

Oh snap! I do only do that when she’s done something wrong, “Sugar Bugger. You did nothing wrong at all. I-it’s just … it’s just that I you know?”

“Noooo? Know what?” Ruby sniffled.

“Well you said that it turns you on when I call you my pet names for you, and I don’t want to lead you on. But … buck me!” Berry cried bringing her forehooves over her face and dragging them downwards.

“Realy! We can do that big pony game like you and Aunty Cheers?!” Ruby asked in between a hopeful cheer and a sob.

“No! And where did you get that idea?” Berry said torn between having a very uncomfortable talk with her daughter coming up, and wanting to comfort the same pony she wanted to have said talk with.

“Well one day I came home early when you said that you and Cheers need to have a big pony talk, and I saw the door open and you two were doing those things the mares in your magazines and videos under your bed do,” Ruby mentioned off hoovedly, wiping the snot off her nose with a forehoof, “Of course after that when she comes over I do my best to sneak in and watch you two.”

Oh! My! Celestia! My daughter’s seen me have sex with my sister! And she likes it! I don’t know what to feel with that little tidbit, “So, have you told anypony else?” Berry asked.

“Nu-uh! It’s nopony’s business what two ponies do behind closed doors! That and I asked Twilight in a roundabout way if two sisters were to have sex if it made them special someponies, and she said no. And that it was incest and illegal, then she asked why I wanted to know and I told her a part truth,” Ruby said, blushing more and more with her explanation.

“That I read about WinCest in a magazine hidden under your bed when I was cleaning, and she said that. that while illegal, is also a … feetish?” Ruby asked.

“Fetish, honey. Go on,” Berry said, waving her forehoof to signal her daughter should continue.

“And if it’s fake siblings its alright, which she said a lot of those things had. Then she told me that I shouldn’t play with big pony things until I’m older,” Ruby finished.

“Well … that is something,”Berry stated, “Well thank you very much for keeping me and Cheerilee’s secret honey. That’d be bad if other ponies knew about it, especially since we only have sex once in a while.”

“But shouldn’t you only have sex with a special somepony?” Ruby asked confusedly.

And the conversation becomes that much more awkward. Thank you Celestia! Just what I wanted … but I guess she has to learn sometime. Might as well be now, “Well Sugar Lump, it’s like this. Big ponies have sex for lots of different reasons, and with their own little rules as to what makes it special. Me and your Auntie Cheers only bump horse shoes when we’re feeling lonely, or we need somepony special to makes us know that we are loved. But we never do it if we have a special somepony ourselves at any given moment.

“But … you’re right it should only be when you have a special somepony, but what I guess I’m trying to say is. If you find a pony you really like, and feel safe around. Safe enough to trust with a special part of yourself, then that’s a good minimum. But you should take the time, and date them to make sure they are the right pony to give that part of you to. Alright Sugar Bugger?”

Ruby nodded her crying subsiding to a hopeful look mixed with the tiniest bits of fear, “So if a pony makes me feel safe, loved, and I feel like I can give them that special part of me to, then they are my special somepony?”

“That’s a good rule to go by,” Berry nodded.

“Then I still want you to be my special somepony,” Ruby said with as much conviction as her little body could manage.

This is going to be one long talk.

Berry left the table to get a pitcher of berry-infused lemonade, and a few glasses so that they could have something while they talked, while also giving them a bathroom break. The distraction was for Ruby’s benefit as much as it was for Berry’s. After she sat the table she went to the spare bathroom and looked at herself in the mirror.

Okay, so my daughter has the hots for me. Is persistent, and knows enough about keeping things like this a secret that I might not lose her. But OMC! I really don’t know if I want to humor this, on one hoof she’s so adorable, I love her with all my heart, and she is adawwable. But on the other, I could lose her, or something could happen like it did her father and she’ll decide she’s better off than with some plain, boring, weakass talent Earth Pony.

There’s a reason us Earth Ponies rarely end up with a pony of the other races for long, who wants to be with an Earth Pony, when you can be with a winged Pegasi that can fly and do cool tricks. Or a Unicorn that has all kinds of special abilities … No Berrs! We aren’t going to get depressed again and drink away our sorrows before having the biggest talk of our lives with our precious gem.

I admit I’m terrified of seeing what would happen if I do this. So much could go wrong, and I don’t want to hurt my baby. Even if by accident … But would it be so wrong to be with a pony that I love, and loves me back? Even knowing I’m not all that special? I guess I’ll have to see where this goes.

Back in the kitchen Berry sat herself down and said, “Listen Baby Love, I want to say some things before we even begin thinking of taking this to the next level. Okay?”

Ruby nodded and waited for Berry to continue, “Well it’s like this. While I won’t admit that there are some pluses I can think of when it comes to us being together,” Berry waited out the squeal of delight before continuing, “There are some negatives, and things you need to understand before we begin to take this seriously.

“First if anypony finds out about us, if we aren’t careful, at least until you’re a grown mare. Well grown enough to be with a mare sexually, then ponies will come and take you away from me. I’ll admit that, that is the biggest negative. You a lot of days are the only thing keeping me going on in life. If I lost you, I don’t know what I’d do,” Berry sighed.

Ruby paled at that and looked absolutely mortified, Berry’s heart broke at that but she needed Ruby to understand just how much was at stake, “I don’t mean to scare you, but you have to see this realistically and understand the bad along with the good. And if ponies found out that we were doing this with one another we would lose each other, possibly forever.

“Second thing you have to understand, if we do keep it a secret, and are alone in this. If we ever did have a baby, for whatever reason in anyway other than adoption. There’s a huge chance it could be born with lots of bad things, and have a lot of health problems. We have a chance that it could be healthy, but we still need to be careful.

“And lastly, you need to know that I’m not perfect. I’m just a plain, ordinary, Earth Pony who gets drunk a lot, and makes more mistakes than most ponies. If you’re looking for the perfect life partner, I’m more than likely not it. I’ll make mistakes, do stupid things, and probably say something someday that’ll make you want to leave me. What are your thoughts on those?”

Ruby closed her eyes and shuddered. The last thing she wanted to do was lose her mother, and knowing that any babies they may have might be doomed to being born unhealthy gave her the shivers. But then she remembered that these were just the negatives, but not the positives. Pulling herself out of her thoughts she saw her mother waiting for her answer.

“I … I don’t want to lose you either. But if I can keep you and Aunty Cheers secret, for the last five years, then I can keep this secret too. I don’t care if nopony ever knows how much I love you, you’ll know and I’ll know. That’ll be enough I guess. Just as long as you love me that’s all that matters.

“As for the baby thing. I don’t know if I’m ready for babies right now, but when I am. How ever we have them, wherever they come from, I will love them as much as I love you because me and you made them together with our love! And that’s all that matters.

“And mommy?”

“Yes Sugar Love,” Berry said teary eyed.

“I know you aren’t perfect, but as you say a lot when you make mistakes. To err is equine. I think only the Princesses are perfect, but other than that, everypony makes mistakes. So that doesn’t matter to me. I know that no matter what, no matter what you do, to me you are utterly amazing and you are full awesomesauce. Even that sauce you and Auntie Cheers leave stained on the bed sometimes before you do laundry. So … yeah, I love you. So does that mean we can be fillyfriends?” Ruby asked with a grin.

“Well … Oh heck, yes. Yes we can give it a shot,” Berry said, “But a few ground rules.”

Ruby was bouncing in her seat, shuddering filly gasps of unrestrained glee bursting out of her, “What are they! I’ll do anything you want just say it!”

“Well love, rule number one, we can’t be more intimate than ponies are used to seeing us do when in any public place. That means no hoof holding, tail holding, kissing like fillyfriends do, and no talking about private stuff alright?”

“Um … okay, but aren’t we pretty affectionate publically already?” Ruby asked.

“Yes, and that works in our favor. But there’s a fine line between what we normally do and what fillyfriends do,” Berry replied before moving on, “Second rule. No telling anypony about us. If we want to give this a shot then we have to keep it a secret.”

“I know, I already said I can do that,” Ruby said with a pout.

“I know Sugar Love, but I need to make sure you know that, and second to last rule, until we’ve been on at least a few dates. You have to sleep in your own room. It’s not appropriate for ponies who are dating to sleep with each other before a few dates. Can you do that?”

“Does this count?”

“Sure love. This most definitely counts,” Berry nodded, “and lastly, and most importantly, if at any time we are doing something that makes you feel uncomfortable, or you want to stop what we have. You have to let me know, I won’t be mad, or upset. But good communication is a must in a relationship.”

“Alright I can do those, so … are we fillyfriends now?” Ruby asked.

When Berry nodded, Ruby squealed with delight and tackled her mother with all of her strength, “I love you so much! I promise to be the most bestest fillyfriend I can be.”

Author's Note

I'll admit I've never seen Berry Punch X Ruby Pinch in a foalcon before, and the only Berry Punch I'm familiar with is in L!Verse who too me. While she gets krunk a lot, is rather mature and thoughtful. So I hope I did these two right. This ship was requested by Gas Jockey Pegasus [like the other FLVerse ones I'll be starting], and I'll admit I feel inspired to write them. I hope y'all enjoy this fic, and yes I'll admit the clop won't be coming for a few chapters since I want to build up a relationship with them first. Let things grow naturally.

But when it does come it will be amazing. Well depending on your particular fetish likes or dislikes. Amazing or uncomfortable. Fetishes are weird like that, hopefully though y'all will like what I put out when I get to that part. This chapter here takes place the same time as Torch of Forbidden Love takes place. [will link said fic here when I submit it. As of now it's complete but waiting me to submit and publish it in chunks stands at 46,779 words].